Immigration hardliner Stephen Miller’s wife has revealed his favorite condiment, and while it may be bland, the online reaction has been spicy. Miller’s wife, Katie — a former communications strategist for politicians who recently had a brief stint working for tech billionaire Elon Musk at the Department of Government Efficiency — has started a podcast for conservative women.

The White House Deputy Chief of Staff’s wife, who’s also a former Trump staffer in her own right, just launched her own podcast, The Katie Miller Show.